AsK about iT! >> ask How, Why, Where, or ...: Re: [Phoenix

VERY bad idea.

She had to lie to get back into her country. If she hadn't they would already know AND be placing her under observation, having her treated, etc.

If she goes to them now she will be admitting to the crime of violating international disease, security, and terrorism laws, possibly in BOTH countries.

At the least she will end up on watch lists and probably not be allowed back in the states as well as being under her own government's scrutiny.

The fact that she is not still getting the shots tells us that her own health authorities are unaware of things.

This could cause her a world of trouble if files now.

She should have done all of it BEFORE getting to this stage.

Her call. If she doesn't mind the furor she can go ahead. Just make sure she knows what she has set herself up for. A fine at the least. Maybe much more.

I have no idea how seriously the home officials will take it all anyway. She may find they don't give a fig about alleged "crimes" in another country but are VERY serious about what she did. It could even have fallout career-wise for her. This isn't the USA with a 1st amendment we are talking about.

There is also the practical matter of convincing authorities half-way around the world to take it seriously, investigate and file charges. She has damaged her credibility from the beginning with this behavior. I would almost bet the NV authorities will not be interested.

She would have to come to the states to do anything. The accused have the right to face their accuser and the prosecution will not act without a victim to interview and testify.

It should all have been started (and possibly ended) before she left.

It all sounds like he said/she said anyway. No witnesses or documentation. Now she damages her credibility by lying to go home? Won't wash.

I can't see anything useful to her coming from it now. Just the opposite.

----- Original Message -----
From: tery
To: Phoenix_Exotics@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 3:25 PM
Subject: RE: [Phoenix_Exotics] Re: Help please!

If this is true, she needs to go to the police in the Philippines as
well. DON'T DROP IT. Her paper should have access to the resources to
do something about this, use them. You, I, or anyone else but her
aren't going to be able to do it for her because we weren't there. This
isn't about exotic animals, its about criminal behavior, and needs to be
handled.

-----Original Message-----
From: Phoenix_Exotics@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:Phoenix_Exotics@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Sharlene
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 6:54 PM
To: Phoenix_Exotics@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Phoenix_Exotics] Re: Help please!

To anyone who will listen about a horrible crime:

I have a friend, from the Philippines who was a crime victim while
visiting the US. She came as a journalist to do a story for PAL in
Las Vegas, and wanted to extend her stay in the states. She has an
interest in exotic cats, so she applied to the Tiger Touch resort in
Fallon NV (5820 Mission Road, Fallon NV 89406), via email in hopes to
be accepted there as a student/volunteer. They accepted her so she
extended her visit to Nov. 6th, however because of the situation, she
is currently back in Manila now.

She arrived Las Vegas on Oct. 3. After she finished her work for
PAL, she arrived at the Tiger Touch about Oct. 6. The owners, and
the only other people tending to the animals besides herself,
pressured her and tried to persuade her, repeatedly, to take her
clothes off, get naked with them, have threesomes with them, and
smoke marijuana with them. She refused their offers and they grew
cold and started trying to isolate her from the outside world,
limiting and monitoring her use of the phone and computer.

On Oct. 13th, she was bit by one of their big cats. They claim
sanctuary for lions, tigers, cougars, lynxes, bobcats and servals.
She was bit by a cougar and they resisted getting her medical care,
insisting that she allow it to heal 'naturally', and they gave her
the drug tramadol for pain. After I insisted she have them take her
to the hospital the owner pointed a gun at her, he and his wife took
her to the ER, but, made her tell a ridiculous story about how she
accidentally stabbed herself, had some kind of spasm and stabbed
herself again, then slipped and fell on the bloody floor landing on a
pile of jagged broken bones to explain the puncture wounds.

They were threatening her and holding a gun on her, told her that in
Nevada they can shoot her first and ask questions later if they think
she is a threat, and when they returned from ER, they demanded to see
emails she had sent to people and stopped allowing her to make or
recieve phone calls. Then on Oct 17th, their internet service
mysteriously (suspiciously) went out.

In the morning of Oct. 18th called the Fallon Sheriff's office and
asked them to go check on her. After the Sheriff left, they told her
to pack her bags and get out. I WU $200 so she could rebook her
flights, and the couple told her she could not use the phone to
rebook, she should try rebooking online. Fallon Sheriff case report
#14385-08.

The owners of Tiger Touch drove her to the Reno airport on Oct. 19th
and she flew to Las Vegas hoping to make a connection to Manila as a
stand-by with PAL. When she got back to Las Vegas Int. Airport, on
the 19th, she called me and told me about the gun and how she was
unable to report the truth to the Sheriff because she was afraid for
her life from the owner's threats. She gave another statement to
the Las Vegas Airport police before she got on the flight back to
Manila.

I'd like to know if justice is going to be served? Does anyone here
even care or are you all too paranoid that she might not be an
innocent victim, but is more likely a spy???? The USA already has a
pretty bad reputation worldwide, and what these people did at their
Tiger Touch facility is worse than what OJ Simpson and his possy of
thugs did in Las Vegas.

Because of all the things my friend has told me, I'm also concerned
that there may be other victims that did not make it out of Tiger
Touch alive. She is currently back in Manila with a serverly injured
and infected stitched up hand, wounded by a cougar attack, but only
treated for a knife wound. The hospital in Fallon treated her for a
knife wound, not an animal bite. She reported to me just before
boarding her flight that she is still in extreme pain, and she needs
medical treatment. She started getting anti-rabies shots, but has no
money to continue the shots or treatment for the infection. Her hand
is badly swollen and leaking a lot of pus.

I think she might lose her hand or her life over this.

I have serious concerns not only about my friend, but who is looking
after the cats?

--- In Phoenix_Exotics@ <mailto:Phoenix_Exotics%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com, Katarina Sardoti
<WACKOKITTEN7@...> wrote:
>
>
> Does anyone know where I can volunteer to assist big cat keepers in
a U.S.facility for a month this October? Can you please help me in my
search?
>
> I'll be in Las Vegas, Nevada this October 2, on official media
coverage (I'm a journalist by profession) but I'll be free by October
4.
>
> I'd prefer a facility close by, if there's one, but I'll do my best
to find a way to access any suitable facility for as long as I can
access it by public transport and within my very limited budget.
>
> I've emailed inquiries to a number of U.S. tiger sanctuary websites
and they said they don't take volunteers who cannot commit at least 3
months. Interns are required to commit 1 year and are not allowed
direct contact with big cats. That's what they told me at the
International Exotic Animal Sanctuary,Texas and at Animal Ark, Reno,
Nevada.
>
> My problem is I can only spare one month for 2008.I just want to
take advantage of my unexpected freetrip to the U.S. to further my
knowledge of the big cats I love.
> This will be my third visit to the U.S. and I've been granted a
multiple-entry "I" (Journalist) visa. But because this is an
unplanned visit (I was notified I'll go to the U.S. just a week ago),
I have to return to my work in my country by mid-Novemberand have to
be with my mom, who just lost my dad, for Christmas. Also, I have to
honor my promise to an Asian sanctuary where I have cared for 23
Corbettstigers, 2 Gir lions and one Asian leopard early thisyear. I
have been re-accepted in the facility for February 1-April 1, 2009.
> Of course, if I can train in a U.S. facility next month, I can
return to work with big cats in 2009 and in the coming years - if the
facility, or some other U.S. tiger sanctuary will have me.
> If I can sustain myself with what I earn as a big catkeeper, I will
change careers and become a keeper full-time.
>
> Right now, I feel that I need a license as a big catkeeper plus
official training in big cat husbandry -if it will be possible for me
to have it in one month in the U.S., from October to November this
year.
> I have no formal training in keeping big cats thoughI have
interacted with captive adult Siberian tigersand Bengals in my teens
and have grown up in a household full of felines.
>
> The Asian facility where I volunteered for a full month early this
year was not really meant to be a zoo or a sanctuary. The tigers,
lions and leopard I handled do not habitually respond to verbal
commands nor can they be classified as "trained" in the true sense of
the word. There was no "formal system" or protocol.
>
> I believe I was able to handle these big cats in an unprotected,
full contact basis and emerged unscathed simply because I was
sensitive to their moods and individual personalities. But I know
there is so much more I need to learn.
>
> By the way, would you also know about the Tiger Touch University
Resort in Fallon, Nevada? Will you recommend it as an ideal facility
and good training ground for big cat keepers?
>
> You can email me at WACKOKITTEN7@...
>
> I will be very grateful for your help.
>
>
>
>
>
>
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